{"id":6053,"date":"2025-08-13T21:04:51","date_gmt":"2025-08-13T21:04:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/?p=6053"},"modified":"2025-08-13T21:04:51","modified_gmt":"2025-08-13T21:04:51","slug":"des-livres-que-je-reve-decrire-depuis-trop-longtemps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/des-livres-que-je-reve-decrire-depuis-trop-longtemps\/","title":{"rendered":"Des livres que je r\u00eave d&rsquo;\u00e9crire depuis (trop) longtemps"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"status__content status__content--with-action\">\n<div class=\"status__content__text status__content__text--visible translate\" lang=\"fr\">\n<p>Le psychanalyste surpris en pleine s\u00e9ance \u00e0 exposer \u00e0 son patient du matin la trinit\u00e9 n\u00e9oplatonicienne : \u00eatre\/vie\/pens\u00e9e (ou : manence, procession, conversion), \u00e0 l&rsquo;occasion d&rsquo;une r\u00eaverie partag\u00e9e autour de la tension entre \u00ab\u00a0\u00eatre deux\u00a0\u00bb et \u00ab\u00a0\u00eatre trois\u00a0\u00bb. (genre de move, faut l&rsquo;admettre, tr\u00e8s \u00ab\u00a0bionien\u00a0\u00bb).<\/p>\n<p>Me rappelle ce professeur que j&rsquo;avais eu en facult\u00e9, \u00e0 la fin des ann\u00e9es 80, qui avait consacr\u00e9 sa vie enti\u00e8re \u00e0 travailler sur ce qu&rsquo;on appelait \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9poque une \u00ab\u00a0th\u00e8se d&rsquo;\u00c9tat\u00a0\u00bb (qui pouvait durer jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 15 ans, p\u00e9riode qu&rsquo;il avait largement d\u00e9pass\u00e9e &#8211; de facto, il n&rsquo;en est jamais venu \u00e0 bout \u00e0 ma connaissance, et entre temps la r\u00e9forme des th\u00e8ses avait eu lieu, en 1984), th\u00e8se qui portait sur les structures trinitaires de la pens\u00e9e, depuis les pr\u00e9socratiques jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 heu.. nos jours ?<\/p>\n<p>Il touchait assur\u00e9ment quelque chose d&rsquo;extr\u00eamement profond.<\/p>\n<p>J&rsquo;ai toujours r\u00eav\u00e9 d&rsquo;\u00e9crire un texte m\u00e9taphysique qui d\u00e9fendrait le bien fond\u00e9, \u00e0 partir de Proclus, de cette dynamique trinitaire, contre les oppositions binaires auxquelles nous autres, contemporains, nous agrippons, par paresse et manque d&rsquo;imagination. D\u00e9crire cette lutte (politique, tout autant que psychologique et m\u00e9taphysique) entre le binaire et le ternaire. (mais autrement que chez Hegel, avec plus d&rsquo;\u00e9merveillement, d&rsquo;enchantement polyth\u00e9iste notamment)<\/p>\n<p>Merci de m&rsquo;avoir lu.<br \/>\nVous pouvez retourner \u00e0 vos occupations.<\/p>\n<p>(Si vous lisez l&rsquo;anglais, la plus belle introduction au difficile, et d\u00e9licat, Proclus, est celle de Radek Chlup :<\/p>\n<p>Radek Chlup, Proclus. An introduction. Un vol. de xvi-328 p. Cambridge, New York, Melbourne, Madrid, Cape Town, Singapore, S\u00e2o Paulo, Delhi, Mexico City, Cambridge University Press, 2012.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Puis :<\/p>\n<p>\u00c0 la laverie automatique&#8230;<br \/>\nNon rien en fait.<br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-6054 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/9780520280182-200x300.avif\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/9780520280182-200x300.avif 200w, https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/9780520280182.avif 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/>J&rsquo;ai \u00e9crit deux trois trucs sur les expressions \u00ab\u00a0Il est trop tard\u00a0\u00bb et \u00ab\u00a0il n&rsquo;est pas trop tard\u00a0\u00bb. Et j&rsquo;ai continu\u00e9 la lecture du bouquin de Sarah Iles Johnston, <em>Restless Dead. Encounters between the Living and the Dead in Ancient Greece<\/em>, University of California Press, dont il faudra que je vous cause un de ces jours.<\/p>\n<p>(sa th\u00e8se, c&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;entre la p\u00e9riode archa\u00efque et la p\u00e9riode classique, la trag\u00e9die, les morts deviennent plus myst\u00e9rieux, moins familiers, moins inoffensifs &#8211; sans doute, soutient-elle, \u00e0 cause de l&rsquo;influence croissante des cultures \u00e9gyptiennes et anatoliennes. D&rsquo;o\u00f9 les recours croissants aux sp\u00e9cialistes de la n\u00e9cromancie, aux mages et aux magiciens, et le succ\u00e8s de l&rsquo;orphisme, venu de Sicile et de l&rsquo;Italie du sud, et des Myst\u00e8res initiatiques etc.. C&rsquo;est assez embarrassant pour les tenants de la th\u00e8se comme quoi la raison \u00e9merge de la Gr\u00e8ce Classique. Mais bon, \u00e7a fait longtemps qu&rsquo;on est revenu de cette id\u00e9e(ologie). Sauf quelques historiens des civilisations compl\u00e8tement r\u00e9ac)<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"status-link unhandled-link\" title=\"https:\/\/www.ucpress.edu\/books\/restless-dead\/paper\" translate=\"no\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ucpress.edu\/books\/restless-dead\/paper\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><span class=\"invisible\">https:\/\/www.<\/span><span class=\"ellipsis\">ucpress.edu\/books\/restless-dea<\/span><span class=\"invisible\">d\/paper<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>(je r\u00eave d&rsquo;\u00e9crire un jour un petit livre synth\u00e9tique sur la diversit\u00e9 des relations des vivants et des morts. J&rsquo;avais \u00e9t\u00e9 boulevers\u00e9 par le livre de Beth Conklin, Consuming grief : compassionate cannibalism in an Amazonian society,. Austin : University of Texas Press. 2001.<\/p>\n<p>(manger litt\u00e9ralement ses morts, comme un travail de deuil !)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Le psychanalyste surpris en pleine s\u00e9ance \u00e0 exposer \u00e0 son patient du matin la trinit\u00e9 n\u00e9oplatonicienne : \u00eatre\/vie\/pens\u00e9e (ou : manence, procession, conversion), \u00e0 l&rsquo;occasion d&rsquo;une r\u00eaverie partag\u00e9e autour de la tension entre \u00ab\u00a0\u00eatre deux\u00a0\u00bb et \u00ab\u00a0\u00eatre trois\u00a0\u00bb. (genre de move, faut l&rsquo;admettre, tr\u00e8s \u00ab\u00a0bionien\u00a0\u00bb). Me rappelle ce professeur que j&rsquo;avais eu en facult\u00e9, \u00e0&hellip;<\/p>\n <a href=\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/des-livres-que-je-reve-decrire-depuis-trop-longtemps\/\" title=\"Des livres que je r\u00eave d&rsquo;\u00e9crire depuis (trop) longtemps\" class=\"entry-more-link\"><span>Read More<\/span> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Des livres que je r\u00eave d&rsquo;\u00e9crire depuis (trop) longtemps<\/span><\/a>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"Layout":"","footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[61],"tags":[],"class_list":["entry","author-danah","post-6053","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","category-chronique"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Des livres que je r\u00eave d&#039;\u00e9crire depuis (trop) longtemps - Outside Dana Hilliot<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/des-livres-que-je-reve-decrire-depuis-trop-longtemps\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Des livres que je r\u00eave d&#039;\u00e9crire depuis (trop) longtemps - Outside Dana Hilliot\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Le psychanalyste surpris en pleine s\u00e9ance \u00e0 exposer \u00e0 son patient du matin la trinit\u00e9 n\u00e9oplatonicienne : \u00eatre\/vie\/pens\u00e9e (ou : manence, procession, conversion), \u00e0 l&rsquo;occasion d&rsquo;une r\u00eaverie partag\u00e9e autour de la tension entre \u00ab\u00a0\u00eatre deux\u00a0\u00bb et \u00ab\u00a0\u00eatre trois\u00a0\u00bb. 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