14782472880481469<\/span><\/a><\/p>\nQu\u2019il y ait une entreprise d\u00e9lib\u00e9r\u00e9e de d\u00e9sinformation (la preuve en est le nombre de messages propuls\u00e9s par des bots notamment sur X), je n\u2019en doute pas. Ce qui m\u2019int\u00e9resse plut\u00f4t, c\u2019est l\u2019impact de cette propagande sur les populations. Je me demande par exemple si l\u2019enjeu est vraiment une question de \u201csavoir\u201d pour ceux qui relaient les messages de la sph\u00e8re d\u00e9nialiste. On devrait toujours se poser la question quand une propagande fonctionne\u00a0: Ont-ils r\u00e9ellement chang\u00e9 d\u2019opinion\u00a0? Ou se sentent-ils juste confort\u00e9s dans ce qu\u2019ils pensaient d\u00e9j\u00e0 savoir\u00a0?<\/p>\n
Le fait que les climato-d\u00e9nialistes se recrutent surtout dans les milieux (pouvoir et \u00e9lectorat) d\u2019extr\u00eame droite et\/ou complotistes tend plut\u00f4t \u00e0 faire penser qu\u2019il ne s\u2019agit pas tant d\u2019un enjeu de savoir (au sens d\u2019avoir raison) que de refuser les r\u00e9cits de l\u2019ennemi (les \u201c\u00e9lites\u201d), parce qu\u2019ils viennent pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment de cette sph\u00e8re honnie qu\u2019est (pour le dire vite) la d\u00e9mocratie lib\u00e9rale\u00a0: il n\u2019y a rien d\u2019\u00e9tonnant dans cette perspective que le r\u00e9cit de la pr\u00e9occupation climatique soit rejet\u00e9 au m\u00eame titre que le suppos\u00e9 multiculturalisme des lib\u00e9raux, leur \u201cinternationalisme\u201d, leurs politiques suppos\u00e9ment favorables aux \u00e9trangers, aux racis\u00e9s, aux LGBT, aux \u201cassist\u00e9s\u201d. La pr\u00e9occupation pour le climat fait en quelque sorte partie du stock d\u2019id\u00e9es contre lequel une partie de la droite et de l\u2019extr\u00eame droite m\u00e8ne une guerre syst\u00e9matique (mais on en trouverait aussi dans les groupes populistes complotistes \u201calternatifs\u201d \u2013 il n\u2019y a pas qu\u2019\u00e0 droite que le \u00ab\u00a0rejet des \u00e9lites\u00a0\u00bb finit par se traduire en un rejet massif de toute information scientifique)<\/p>\n
Arlie Russell Hochschild, la grande sociologie am\u00e9ricaine qui a beaucoup \u00e9cout\u00e9 les populations qui votent massivement pour Trump, \u00e9crit qu\u2019au fond ces personnes assument et revendiquent le droit de ne pas prendre soin (The rights not to care), des plus pauvres (qu\u2019eux), des \u201cautres\u201d (\u00ab\u00a0other others\u00a0\u00bb, par exemple dans les pays du sud), mais aussi de la plan\u00e8te.<\/p>\n
On pourrait le dire autrement, en disant que ce que rejettent les d\u00e9nialistes, c\u2019est la vision du monde (largement fantasm\u00e9e, \u00e7a va de soi) de celles et ceux qui pr\u00e9tendent \u00ab\u00a0prendre soin\u00a0\u00bb (de mani\u00e8re g\u00e9n\u00e9rale). Dans leur esprit, c\u2019est propagande contre propagande\u00a0: le pouvoir est aux mains de d\u00e9mocrates lib\u00e9raux qui sapent les fondements du monde r\u00eav\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0d\u2019avant\u00a0\u00bb \u2013 pour le dire brutalement, un monde o\u00f9 le statut social des blancs, leur fiert\u00e9 comme dit Hochschild, l\u2019\u00e9thique du travail et de la famille, etc. constituaient les valeurs fondamentales de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 \u2013 un monde d\u2019avant la globalisation, d\u00e9sormais entra\u00een\u00e9 dans le chaos, peupl\u00e9 d\u2019innombrables \u201cautres\u201d mena\u00e7ants, de suppos\u00e9es nouvelles d\u00e9pendances, etc.<\/p>\n
Au fond, ce qui se joue dans le succ\u00e8s du d\u00e9nialisme, ce n\u2019est pas tant un enjeu de savoir qu\u2019un conflit de visions du monde, ou, plus pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment encore, le refus des cons\u00e9quences qui s\u2019ensuivraient si l\u2019on prenait au s\u00e9rieux le savoir climatique produit par la communaut\u00e9 scientifique. Ce pourquoi d\u2019ailleurs on met encore plus de soin \u00e0 nier la responsabilit\u00e9 \u201chumaine\u201d que la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 du changement climatique. Penser les activit\u00e9s humaines comme responsables de la catastrophe, c\u2019est de leur point de vue \u00eatre d\u00e9sign\u00e9 comme coupable. Je signale au passage que ce \u00ab\u00a0refus de se sentir coupable\u00a0\u00bb, ou cette lutte (f\u00e9roce) contre le sentiment de culpabilit\u00e9, et les exigences de justice, de r\u00e9paration et plus g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement de changement qu\u2019il implique, vaut aussi bien pour le r\u00e9cit climatique que pour l\u2019histoire\u00a0: le d\u00e9nialisme va souvent de pair avec des refus de lire l\u2019histoire pass\u00e9e (notamment coloniale) qui confine au n\u00e9gationnisme. (Songez au refus de la \u201crepentance\u201d)<\/p>\n
Et, derni\u00e8re remarque, le th\u00e8me de l\u2019\u00e9cologie punitive, assez embl\u00e9matique de ce refus de prendre au s\u00e9rieux les impacts r\u00e9els du changement climatique, a fait flores bien au-del\u00e0 des sph\u00e8res complotistes ou d\u2019extr\u00eame droite\u00a0: les milieux d\u2019affaire et les gouvernants n\u00e9olib\u00e9raux ne sont pas aussi \u00e9loign\u00e9s sur ce point des d\u00e9nialistes d\u2019extr\u00eame droite que ces derniers le pensent. Contrairement \u00e0 ce qu\u2019ils imaginent, les politiques cyniques des n\u00e9olib\u00e9raux (les \u00e9lites suppos\u00e9ment lib\u00e9rales et d\u00e9mocrates) s\u2019emploient fort bien \u00e0 refuser, elles aussi, les cons\u00e9quences du changement climatique, le traiter comme une crise (semblable \u00e0 toutes ces crises dans lesquelles s\u2019\u00e9panouit la culture et l\u2019\u00e9conomie capitaliste \u2013 une crise est d\u2019abord une opportunit\u00e9 pour le business \u2013 que ce soit une guerre, une catastrophe, l\u2019\u00e9clatement d\u2019une bulle financi\u00e8re, etc.), plut\u00f4t que comme une catastrophe n\u00e9cessitant un changement drastique des mani\u00e8res d\u2019habiter le monde des classes ais\u00e9es en Europe, aux \u00c9tats-Unis et ailleurs.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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