{"id":2763,"date":"2019-05-16T08:45:14","date_gmt":"2019-05-16T08:45:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/?page_id=2763"},"modified":"2019-05-16T08:45:14","modified_gmt":"2019-05-16T08:45:14","slug":"reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/","title":{"rendered":"R\u00e9ponse au magazine Squiggle : comment s\u2019y retrouver ?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Freudien, Lacanien, Jungien, Kleinien\u2026 comment s\u2019y retrouver ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> par <a href=\"https:\/\/squiggle.be\/auteur\/vincent_seguret\/\">Vincent Seguret<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/squiggle.be\/category\/question_et_reponse\/\">Question &amp; r\u00e9ponse<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019histoire de la psychanalyse n\u2019est pas un long fleuve  tranquille : le plus souvent \u00e0 l\u2019occasion d\u2019innovations conceptuelles ou  techniques, les groupes analytiques se d\u00e9chirent jusqu\u2019\u00e0 la scission,  et, m\u00eame quand le feu des batailles s\u2019assoupit, demeure une sorte  d\u2019incommunicabilit\u00e9 (certes relative) entre les diff\u00e9rents courants.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Et s\u2019il ne s\u2019agissait que de divergences th\u00e9oriques, que de jeux de \nlangage diff\u00e9rents ! Ces divergences touchent aussi les pratiques, parce\n que, et c\u2019est l\u00e0 une caract\u00e9ristique essentielle de la psychanalyse, le\n lien entre ce que les analystes pensent et ce qu\u2019ils font est crucial :\n la pluralit\u00e9 des th\u00e9ories se r\u00e9percute sur les mani\u00e8res de mener \nl\u2019analyse1. Pire encore ! Chaque analyste, affili\u00e9 ou non \u00e0 un courant \nde pens\u00e9e, non seulement se r\u00e9f\u00e8re \u00e0 son propre stock de th\u00e9ories et de \nmod\u00e8les (voire \u00e0 son propre jargon), mais d\u00e9ploie sa propre \ninterpr\u00e9tation du cadre et semble adopter pour son cabinet les r\u00e8gles \nqui lui conviennent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On peut regretter que \u00ab la \u00bb psychanalyse ne pr\u00e9sente pas au monde \next\u00e9rieur une th\u00e9orie unifi\u00e9e, qu\u2019on ne puisse faire \u00e9tat d\u2019une \nconception un tant soit peu consensuelle de notre discipline (la \nr\u00e9f\u00e9rence commune \u00e0 Freud ne saurait en effet cacher la dissonance des \nlectures et interpr\u00e9tations). Mais il me para\u00eet au contraire \u00e9minemment \nsouhaitable que chaque analyste analyse avec ce qu\u2019il est, manifeste son\n propre style et fasse appel aux mod\u00e8les et aux th\u00e9ories qui lui agr\u00e9ent\n et nourrissent sa&nbsp; pens\u00e9e. On devrait m\u00eame s\u2019attendre \u00e0 ce qu\u2019un \nanalyste ait acquis suffisamment d\u2019ind\u00e9pendance et de souplesse d\u2019esprit\n pour ne pas se plier aveugl\u00e9ment aux d\u00e9sirs de telle ou telle \nob\u00e9dience.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Avant de devenir analyste, j\u2019ai fr\u00e9quent\u00e9 plusieurs divans, et le \nfauteuil adjacent \u00e9tait immanquablement occup\u00e9 par des analystes qui se \nr\u00e9clamaient d\u2019abord de Lacan. Je puis vous assurer que les pratiques et \nles ambiances respectives de ces s\u00e9ances \u00e9taient tout \u00e0 fait diff\u00e9rentes\n d\u2019un cabinet \u00e0 l\u2019autre, malgr\u00e9 la r\u00e9f\u00e9rence commune au m\u00eame auteur. Et \nd\u2019ailleurs, ces analyses ont fait de moi un praticien qui cherche le \nplus souvent ses appuis th\u00e9oriques et ses mod\u00e8les dans les textes de \nWilfred Rupert Bion (lequel s\u2019\u00e9tait form\u00e9 avec les kleiniens) .<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>D\u00e8s lors, \u00ab comment s\u2019y retrouver \u00bb ? Du point de vue des analystes, \nqu\u2019ils puissent se sentir parfois \u00ab lost in translation \u00bb2, perdus dans \nla pluralit\u00e9 des th\u00e9ories, c\u2019est l\u00e0 un sentiment qu\u2019ils doivent \napprendre \u00e0 tol\u00e9rer, et dont on peut esp\u00e9rer qu\u2019il n\u2019interf\u00e8re pas dans \nleur pratique. Et c\u2019est bien la parole du patient qui constitue la \nsource et le crit\u00e8re des \u00e9laborations produites dans la cure (par \nl\u2019analyste aussi bien que par le patient, si bien qu\u2019il est fr\u00e9quent \nqu\u2019on ne sache plus vraiment lequel a \u00e9nonc\u00e9 telle ou telle \nformulation), et certainement pas le jargon analytique. Pour \nl\u2019analysant, \u00ab s\u2019y retrouver \u00bb dans l\u2019analyse, h\u00e9 bien, c\u2019est tout \u00e0 \nfait ce dont il s\u2019agit au bout du compte : l\u2019important est qu\u2019on s\u2019y \nretrouve, qu\u2019on puisse faire de cette analyse une exp\u00e9rience fructueuse,\n enrichissante, susceptible d\u2019accro\u00eetre sa capacit\u00e9 de penser et d\u2019agir.\n Peu importe que vous fr\u00e9quentiez le divan d\u2019un analyste de telle ou \ntelle ob\u00e9dience, l\u2019essentiel est de trouver l\u2019espace et le temps qui \nvous conviennent (un cabinet d\u2019analyse pas forc\u00e9ment trop confortable, \nmais, disons, d\u2019un inconfort tol\u00e9rable).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Saint-Flour, janvier 2010<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1 Freud avait diagnostiqu\u00e9 le \nprobl\u00e8me tr\u00e8s t\u00f4t : \u00ab Peut-\u00eatre m\u2019objecterez-vous que ces scissions sont\n d\u00e8s maintenant plus fr\u00e9quentes dans l\u2019histoire de la psychanalyse que \ndans d\u2019autres mouvements d\u2019id\u00e9es. J\u2019ignore s\u2019il en est r\u00e9ellement ainsi,\n mais en ce cas il convient d\u2019en rendre respon sables les rapports \nintimes qui relient, dans la psychanalyse, les vues th\u00e9oriques au \ntraitement th\u00e9rapeutique. S\u2019il ne s\u2019agissait que de divergences \nd\u2019opinions, elles seraient bien mieux support\u00e9es. \u00bb (Nouvelles \nConf\u00e9rences sur la psychanalyse, 1915-1917 (trad. A. Berman), 6\u00e8me \nconf\u00e9rence)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2 Pour reprendre le titre du film de Sofia Coppola.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Freudien, Lacanien, Jungien, Kleinien\u2026 comment s\u2019y retrouver ? par Vincent Seguret | Question &amp; r\u00e9ponse L\u2019histoire de la psychanalyse n\u2019est pas un long fleuve tranquille : le plus souvent \u00e0 l\u2019occasion d\u2019innovations conceptuelles ou techniques, les groupes analytiques se d\u00e9chirent jusqu\u2019\u00e0 la scission, et, m\u00eame quand le feu des batailles s\u2019assoupit, demeure une sorte d\u2019incommunicabilit\u00e9&hellip;<\/p>\n <a href=\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/\" title=\"R\u00e9ponse au magazine Squiggle : comment s\u2019y retrouver ?\" class=\"entry-more-link\"><span>Read More<\/span> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">R\u00e9ponse au magazine Squiggle : comment s\u2019y retrouver ?<\/span><\/a>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"Layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["entry","author-danah","post-2763","page","type-page","status-publish"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.0 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>R\u00e9ponse au magazine Squiggle : comment s\u2019y retrouver ? - Outside Dana Hilliot<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"R\u00e9ponse au magazine Squiggle : comment s\u2019y retrouver ? - Outside Dana Hilliot\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Freudien, Lacanien, Jungien, Kleinien\u2026 comment s\u2019y retrouver ? par Vincent Seguret | Question &amp; r\u00e9ponse L\u2019histoire de la psychanalyse n\u2019est pas un long fleuve tranquille : le plus souvent \u00e0 l\u2019occasion d\u2019innovations conceptuelles ou techniques, les groupes analytiques se d\u00e9chirent jusqu\u2019\u00e0 la scission, et, m\u00eame quand le feu des batailles s\u2019assoupit, demeure une sorte d\u2019incommunicabilit\u00e9&hellip;\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Outside Dana Hilliot\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Dur\u00e9e de lecture estim\u00e9e\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"4 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/\",\"name\":\"R\u00e9ponse au magazine Squiggle : comment s\u2019y retrouver ? - Outside Dana Hilliot\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2019-05-16T08:45:14+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"fr-FR\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/reponse-au-magazine-squiggle-comment-sy-retrouver\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Accueil\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"R\u00e9ponse au magazine Squiggle : comment s\u2019y retrouver ?\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/outsiderland.com\/danahilliot\/\",\"name\":\"Outside Dana Hilliot\",\"description\":\". 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